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12-16-2014, 04:39 PM
I talked to an FBI HRT guy this fall who said the bureau was about to release new caliber study that would put favorable light back on the 9mm when compared to other law enforcement rounds. He was going to give me an advance copy...and then didn't. Hmmm. I guess it is now out.
Check out this article below if you have not seen it already. Some of the same concepts are repeated in the FBI ammo article.
http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/alternate...ping-power
I really like this article published back in 2011. There has been no big study done since the Miami shootout in the 1980's on cartridge effectiveness. Bullet manufacturers keep making more effective hollowpoint rounds, but the fact remains you can't push a pistol bullet fast enough to get consistent expansion in every situation and marksmanship makes the difference, not the caliber or bullet design. If it happens to expand that is great and increase wound channel or leathality...but just doesn't always happen.
The author went out and studied actual shooting and autopsy data and reduced it down into statistics he includes in the article. He has taken some academic criticism for the way he did it, but at least he gathered the info and did the best he could. It is easy to criticize someone else's work. Draw your own conclusions.
His point is well made there is no such thing as stopping power or knock down power, and hits on vitals/marksmanship are really what count. The diff between 9mm/.40 and 45ACP in his study are pretty much negligible in law enforcement shootings. (which are different than armed civilian shootings and combat shootings).
Everyone has their own opinions on what is "best" bullet and best gun etc. Darn shame when reality intrudes now and again!
Check out this article below if you have not seen it already. Some of the same concepts are repeated in the FBI ammo article.
http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/alternate...ping-power
I really like this article published back in 2011. There has been no big study done since the Miami shootout in the 1980's on cartridge effectiveness. Bullet manufacturers keep making more effective hollowpoint rounds, but the fact remains you can't push a pistol bullet fast enough to get consistent expansion in every situation and marksmanship makes the difference, not the caliber or bullet design. If it happens to expand that is great and increase wound channel or leathality...but just doesn't always happen.
The author went out and studied actual shooting and autopsy data and reduced it down into statistics he includes in the article. He has taken some academic criticism for the way he did it, but at least he gathered the info and did the best he could. It is easy to criticize someone else's work. Draw your own conclusions.
His point is well made there is no such thing as stopping power or knock down power, and hits on vitals/marksmanship are really what count. The diff between 9mm/.40 and 45ACP in his study are pretty much negligible in law enforcement shootings. (which are different than armed civilian shootings and combat shootings).
Everyone has their own opinions on what is "best" bullet and best gun etc. Darn shame when reality intrudes now and again!
Check out this article below if you have not seen it already. Some of the same concepts are repeated in the FBI ammo article.
http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/alternate...ping-power
I really like this article published back in 2011. There has been no big study done since the Miami shootout in the 1980's on cartridge effectiveness. Bullet manufacturers keep making more effective hollowpoint rounds, but the fact remains you can't push a pistol bullet fast enough to get consistent expansion in every situation and marksmanship makes the difference, not the caliber or bullet design. If it happens to expand that is great and increase wound channel or leathality...but just doesn't always happen.
The author went out and studied actual shooting and autopsy data and reduced it down into statistics he includes in the article. He has taken some academic criticism for the way he did it, but at least he gathered the info and did the best he could. It is easy to criticize someone else's work. Draw your own conclusions.
His point is well made there is no such thing as stopping power or knock down power, and hits on vitals/marksmanship are really what count. The diff between 9mm/.40 and 45ACP in his study are pretty much negligible in law enforcement shootings. (which are different than armed civilian shootings and combat shootings).
Everyone has their own opinions on what is "best" bullet and best gun etc. Darn shame when reality intrudes now and again!